This was submitted by a guy as to the details of Cheneys where abouts
on 9-11-01
I've done alot of reading on this and many other 9/11-related subjects, but
I haven't come across anything like I did below by comparing official sites
on 9/11. What I've come across related to Cheney's interview right after
9/11 and his involvement fresh on his mind compared to what the 9/11
Commission Report published almost 3 years later what he did is amazing
and so obvious. Rev. David R. Griffin and others have mentioned the
problem with Mineta's testimony not being included in the 9/11
Commission Report, but I don't recall him or others compare the three
sites I mentioned below in a similar way. Are my findings correct or am I
making major assumptions?
A Brief Summary of 9/11-Related Conflicts (Cover-ups?) That Can Be
Proven Using Official Websites
Cheney's Unofficial Version of His Experience in the PEOC During 9/11
- Cheney was interviewed by Tim Russert on "Meet the Press" on Sept
16, 2001 (no times given)
-- Cheney said
-- He was hurriedly brought down to the PEOC
-- "...and there, I had Norm Mineta..." (Mineta: Secretary of
Transportation during 9/11)
-- "...within a short order, we had word the Pentagon's been hit."
-- Conclusion: Cheney said he was in the PEOC during the Pentagon
attack and implied(?) that Mineta was already there.
-- Source:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/news-speeches/speeches/vp20
010916.html
Norman Mineta's Official (Sworn Testimony) Version of His
Experience in the PEOC During 9/11 at the 9/11 Commisson
Hearing on May 23, 2003
- Summary of Mineta's Testimony
-- Mineta said he arrived in the PEOC at 9:20 and that Cheney was already
there (contrast this information with what Cheney told Russert above:
Cheney says Mineta was already in the PEOC when he arrived and Mineta
said Cheney was already in the PEOC running things before 9:20; Who's
telling the truth?)
-- Mineta said at 9:25 or 9:26:
--- "There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice
president, "The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out." And
when it got down to, "The plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said
to the vice president, "Do the orders still stand?" And the vice president
turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still
stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?" (See brief video of
Mineta's testimony at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y;
the video used to be on the 9/11
Commission site)
-- Mineta told the 9/11 Commission the plane that hit the Pentagon was
Flight 77.
--- Note: The 9/11 Commission Report said the Pentagon attack
occurred
at 9:37:46
-- Conclusion: Mineta's testimony implied that Cheney was there during
the Pentagon attack
-- Official Site:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing2/9-11Commission_Hearin
g_2003-05-23.pdf
Summary of What the 9/11 Commission Report Mentioned of Cheney's
Involvement During 9/11 (Mineta was there too, but it never mentioned
he was in the PEOC or anything he said on May 23, 2003)
- Report mentioned Cheney arrived in the PEOC at 9:58 which contradicts
Cheney's interview and Mineta's sworn testimony (both mentioned above)
-- The report never mentioned:
--- Mineta was ever in the PEOC during 9/11 (the way the report was
written, it didn't have to mention the details the Mineta's May 23, 2003
transcript
--- Any details of Mineta's timeline or what Mineta said he heard the
young man tell Cheney (see above)
-- On page 41 of the report, "At some time between 10:10 and 10:15, a
military aide told the Vice-President and others that the aircraft was 80
miles out. Vice-President Cheney was asked for authority to engage the
aircraft (My Note: Which aircraft?). His reaction was described by
Scooter Libby as quick and decisive, "in about the same time it takes a
batter to decide to swing." The Vice-President authorized fighter aircraft
to engage the inbound plane. He told us he based this authorization on
his earlier conversation with the President. The military aide returned a
few minutes later, probably between 10:12 and 10:18, and
said the aircraft (My note: Which one?) was 60 miles out. He again asked
for authorization to engage. The Vice-President again said yes.
-- Conclusion:
-- The 9/11 Commission Report:
--- Mentioned Cheney was not in the PEOC until 9:58 (implies that
Cheney was not even in the PEOC during the Pentagon attack since it
occurred at 9:37:46) even thought Cheney in the Russert interview and
Mineta's testimony said he was
--- Did not mention Mineta was ever in the PEOC (search on Mineta
in the pdf version of the report itself to find 4 references to Mineta to
prove my point)
--- Did not mention any of the details of the conversation between
the 'young man' and Cheney
---- Since the report did not mention what Mineta said, the report
author(s) did not have to mention what the "orders" meant in that
conversation
---- The report author(s) appeared to have taken part of Mineta's
comments, moved the scenario to about 45 minutes later, changed the
distance of the aircraft from 50 to 80 miles from Washington, DC, and gave
us all the impression that Cheney was decisive in engaging whatever that
inbound plane was. Notice how the paragraph noted above abruptly ends
in the report.
---- Mineta's sworn testimony (including times and the "orders")
have never been openly challenged. We've never been told he was
confused, lied or had his times wrong. His comments appeared to have
transformed into what was mentioned into page 41 of the report.
-- Official Site: http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf